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Bob Sellon (the inventor of the Lexicon Jamman) put together a prototype Jamman that was never marketed a couple of years ago. It's all very well documented on the web at his sight: http://people.ne.mediaone.net/sellon/jamman0_2Introduction.htm. Needless to say, his modifications of the Jamman made for one interesting machine! Sadly, his brilliant work never became a commercial product. This Jamman 2 combines both looping and STEREO mixing in the manner you described in your post. It's pretty much limited to midi-control, although Bob made provisions for some basic looping functions by way of three way analogue pedals. As a looper, the modified Jamman paints and then allows manipulation of the most outrageous looping landscapes we've ever played in. Combined with a vintage Lexicon Vortex, the experience is like "taking the red pill." Best, The Roctologists ---------- >From: Mark Hamburg <mhamburg@Adobe.COM> >To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com >Subject: A dual loop machine >Date: Sat, May 27, 2000, 2:09 PM > > The discussion a while ago regarding undo on the EDP got me thinking in > general about snapshoting as a mechanism for undo in a looper. Basically, > the idea is that you want to be able to take your current loop at any >given > time and make a snapshot of it. If you later make changes that you don't > like, you can go back to the snapshot. (Or Photoshop-style, you can >bounce > back and forth between various snapshots.) > > This, however, got me thinking about what would happen if you had a >looper > capable of moving pointers through two loops simultaneously. Let's assume > we have an A loop and a B loop. Let's also assume that all recording > happens in loop A and is subject to the usual EDP operations (multiply, > overdub, etc.). A loop consists of a bunch of recorded information and a > pointer cycling through it. Here is a list of some possibly interesting > operations: > > 1. Swap A & B. (Since I only allowed for recording in one of them.) > > 2. Copy loop A to loop B. (i.e., save my loop) > > 3. Copy B to A. (i.e., restore my loop -- not essentially given swapping > but probably useful) > > 4. Crossfade between A and B. > > 5. Fade the loop volumes independently. > > 5. Overdub from B onto A. If the loops are of the same length, this is >just > a gradual replacement. If they are of different lengths, then this is a >way > to build up a complex wash. > > This obviously extends to having more than two loops but the user >interface > would get more complicated. > > Would it be possible to support something like this on the EDP? Mapping >the > options to the available user interface controls might take a bit of >work, > but I think it's probably doable. (Could we use the feedback input as a > general A/B mix control instead?) The big question is whether the EDP has > enough processing power to run and mix two simultaneous loops. > > Mark > >