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I'm standing, but gravity and age are pulling me towards a seat. You're right about that left foot starting to hurt! It maybe time for a padded stool soon! @:^( ______________________________________ Doug "Geezer" Miller Illustrator/graphic designer http://home.columbus.rr.com/dougmiller Website updated 6/2/00, check it out! >> How have you fellow box-stompers and treadletoes dealt with >> this? > I play seated... too much stuff on the floor to do any other way....