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Regarding : OK, all I want is the ability to have a melody replayed in an endless loop so I can practice backup against it. I'm NOT using to make or build up loops....JUST to practice against. I need a loop something like 2-4 minutes long. What should I buy? I'm looking at a BOSS SP-202; would that fill the bill? Any ideas where I could find one used? Will the BR-8 do loops? Suggestions? >From : Stewart Dean, Unix System Admin, Henderson Computer Resources Center of Bard College, Annandale-on-Hudson, New York 12504 sdean@bard.edu voice: 914-758-7475, fax: 914-758-7035 I would suggest that the cheapest approach, and also practical, is the smallest, cheapest cassette based 4-track that you can find from Tascam or Fostex. My first 4-track changed my life, just as much as my Echoplex did, and they have many applications beyond looping. Yr Brother in Looping, K