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>...Vsig makes life easier...who else does a such >extended and complete service to creative tweakers? NOBODY!!! ... If it's "open systems" you're discussing, I just gotta point to the Kyma system. See http://www.symbolicsound.com/ . I've never seen such an open system, which is the reason I bought one. It comes in two parts: Kyma (the sound design language/environment) and the Capybara hardware accelerator. Kyma runs on a Mac or Windows system that's attached to the Capybara via a proprietary interface. I've got a "Capy Lite" which is a basic unit with four DSPs and four analog/digital inputs and outputs. A fully populated Capybara-320 has 28 DSPs and eight analog/digital inputs and outputs. Although the hardware isn't available off the shelf (Symbolic Sound's shelf), the software will support 128 DSPs. The unit is programmable at many levels, from using the several hundred supplied Sounds to DSP assembly language. When you write "microsounds" in assembly language, they're integrated into the Kyma framework and completely interoperable with the supplied Sounds. Dennis Leas ----------------------------- dennis@mdbs.com