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With respect to the SP-808, I have one too and yet I still rely mostly on my Echoplexes. The SP-808 has many strengths that I would not deny, but it is not a real time looper. After completing a sampling operation, it pauses for several seconds to process the sample. Then you need to hit another button to play the sample. Also, sound output is muted duing the sampling operation.That does not keep the flow going like an EDP! For offline manipulation of samples it is way cool, but will it never replace my EDP or DL6? No. Brother K BenS@bootlegtv.com on 08/04/2000 11:39:35 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@SMTP To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@SMTP cc: Subject: RE: The Best Loopers Classification: Restricted Roland SP-808 is a great box. I have one and I love it. It's dedicated to phrase sampling, and therefore is very responsive and intuitive to use as such. It also has a 4 track digital recorder/sequencer (which is not as intuitive). It's a very deep unit and I've just scratched the surface, but it's really quite an amazing thing. It has an fantastic selection of high quality effects which can be used pre and post sample and a d-beam controller which can drive any parameter and is just fucking cool no matter how you slice it. The biggest drawback is that it uses Zip discs and a proprietary format to store everything, but this is just a minor annoyance, since you will want to back up anything that you plan to keep around for a long time- I've had a zip go bad on me and it was an unpleasant experience to say the least. It's about $1000 and is worth every penny. If you are ONLY going to be doing looping, the Electrix Repeater has everyone drooling, but it's not available yet. There will more-than-likely be waiting lists to get them when it is finally released. -Ben -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Mulvihill [mailto:kmulvihill@mediaone.net] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:22 PM To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: The Best Loopers Hi all, Okay, this is my first post, so if there's an archive I can go to and get this information, please let me know by posting a URL... :-) I'm just wondering what the best looper to use is? I know there's the Echoplex, the Lexicon (MPG2 I think), the Akai, etc., etc. Which looper device do you all consider to be the best looping device on the market? I'm planning to spend about $1500 for this so would appreciate something in that range (or less)... in fact, PREFERABLY much less! If you have one you think is the best, please tell me why you think it's the best... what features or sounds does it have that the others don't? Thanks! I'm looking forward to your responses... A Newbie for Now... Kevin