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"> >oh, drat. and there's no wayto upgrade the sounds I assume... > Nope. You could control an external sound module, but that kind of kills the point of having all that stuff on board. From my own point of view, I'm rather tired of 'lots of programming to get it to do what you want' instruments. If I want that, I can use reactor, which is what I'd probably use the handsonic to control, latency and all." I am mainly interested in using an external module for the microtunability. I have not been able to tune any of the internal sounds in steps smaller than 50 cents (a quarter-tone). You can only program a 24-ET scale, which is severely limiting. "It's pretty much a less than run-of-the-mill drum machine, with >excellent< hand drum sounds, tied to an cool controller surface but with a something to be desired UI and set up, and an unflexible architecture. It's still a lot of fun, but don't expect to be excited by anything but the hand drum/percussion emulations." This is a fair assessment, which I agree with. There are still a number of things which I need to investigate further, such as if _all_ the internal sounds are samples, or if some of them are physically modeled. If the former, then conceivably, _any_ of the sounds can be set up to be controlled with muting, palm heel pressure, positional sensing, etc. and other techniques afforded by the V-Drum type triggering technology. More significantly, can the V-Drum-type triggering be made to work with external MIDI sounds? How about the D-Beam and ribbons? If yes, that would be majorly cool in my book. If not, I'm satisfied with the internal sounds that _are_ V-controllable. Speaking of the hand percussion emulations, I must say I like the manual's little section on how to play like a conga drummer. If sections were added to explain simple udu, talking drum, and tabla techniques (as played on Handsonic) that alone would make the manual a lot better. Fortunately, I did have some tabla instruction... Keep in mind all my comments have been posted without the benefit of having seen the Handsonic demo video, which I did order from Roland. Bottom line is, YOU as the customer need to decide if the Handsonic is right for YOUR needs for the asking price. The closest thing out there is the Zendrum and it is several hundred dollars more expensive without the V-drum technology (for muting, pressure sensitivity, etc.), the extra controllers (D-Beam, ribbons), built-in sounds, or sequencer. I know for what I want to do, the answer was "yes". Hopefully the posts on these threads have been of assistance. Paolo _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.