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hi rich, I'm sorry the pianographique wasn't cool enough for you. What I can't understand is the aggression it evokes. I think it's a very nice application with excellent art-work and really relaxing toy. what's wrong in playing? why do you think it gives kid the idea they would be composers (btw, the manufacturers of the tools discussed in this mailing group often do!) Why not just enjoy it? And what's wrong in sharing things you like? ...things are serious enough... regards (poor) stephan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: rich [mailto:rich@nuvision.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. September 2000 16:51 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: I just want to share this with you... Didn't we have a thread last year about a similar german site? Electrik or something? These sites fascinate me for about 5 minutes and then i've had it, but leave a lingering icky feeling in my stomach...don't know why...just getting old? they seem like music/art kiosks that wow you with the graphics but have about as much substance as cotton candy. "here kids...look...you can play music! techno is easy! collage is easy! see? just push the button and something happens!" Rauschenberg? Jasper Johns? phooey! i can do better than that right here! thanks flash and shockwave! do you need to make music if you don't have a song in your heart? rich >Loopers link of the mounth? >http://www.pianographique.com > >Maybe a birthday present for Loopers delight. > >have fun! >If you do not speak french: use your keyboard to play. > >stephan >www.stephanneetenbeek.de