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In a message dated 9/10/00 10:41:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jordanpease@webtv.net writes: << One thing that really bugs me is that sometimes if I erase a loop and start again several times in a row, I loose sync with the drum machine. This is especially troubling when I already have a loop going that I'm overdubbing onto. That has NEVER happened with the Jamman. (I've got two Echoplexes hooked-up in a stereo configuration). One of the features that the Jamman lacks that I was excited to have on the Echoplex was the UNDO function. I find that it doesn't work as I would expect it to... >> I also just started using an Echoplex (migrating from the Jamman environment) and observed the above as well. The UNDO function doesn't always seem to undo. I'm not sure if this is a configuration issue or just the way the UNDO function works (or rather doesn't). I've also noticed an intermittent problem with losing sync to a drum machine. Ultimately, I guess, I was trying to use the Echoplex in a similar fashion as I had used the Jamman (which is, needless to say, not optimizing the Echoplex's capabilities) and I moved away from that setup. Rather, I've been entering drum/percussion directly into the Echoplex using a Hart percussion pad to trigger an Alesis DM5. Then, I've been adding guitar rhythm or bass patterns, building up several fuller loops then recording the whole mess to my Roland VS840EX. Once, I have some good backgrounds prepared, I solo over the whole shebang and record, again, via the VS840EX. Later.....Paul from "the Butch Band"