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Jan and Rainer, Thanks for the replies. I'm a little concerned about Jan's comment about his friend having troubles with the mixer when he moved it a lot. I plan on using it for both home studio and live use (though in Eastern Iowa, there aren't many opportunities for live looping performances--so it probably won't get moved too often). > > the subgroup outputs. My thought, then is to route the signals I want > > going to the Vortex into a pair of subgroups (say 1&2), feed sub outs > > 1&2 into mixer inputs that are assigned to subgroups 3&4. If I then do > > not assign subs 1&2 to main, but do assign 3&4 to main, it should be a > > roundabout way of doing what the insert would do...right? > > I would go straight into the Vortex from the sub outs > Oops...I meant to say: "feed sub outs 1&2 into the Vortex, from the Vortex outs into mixer inputs that are assigned to subgroups 3&4." Basically, I can only really deal with two final outputs from the mixer, so I wanted to pump the Vortex mix back into the mixer so that it could be mixed with the non-Vortex mix to come out the main L and R outputs. Given the complexity of Rainer's setup, I think I'm only scratching the surface with my proposed use. Rainer, are you only using the single output from the Headrush or have you implemented the four "tape-delay" outputs as well? I shudder when I think of all the craziness I could invoke with the edp, headrush, and vortex each doing their own things... Thanks again. If there are others out there who have experience with this mixer in a looping rig I'd love to hear about them, both positive and negative. Cheers, Jon Southwood