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Hi Loop People! Just finished Italo's paen to Orville, and some thoughts are starting to form. I have struggled with integrating technology into my live performances for quite a while, and I can appreciate what he says about unreliable stuff--let's face it, it only has to fail once in front of an audience to be untrustworthy. I think that there is a way to go on from equipment failure, however, altho it pays to have redundant systems in place for just such an occasion. The complexity which is part of having tremendous control can make being graceful under fire much more difficult. It's nice to have an interface that you don't have to think too much about since the brain get confused. It's all about control. Perhaps we can agree that great music can be achieved with outdated tools if the vision is intact and the control is in place. I believe that my performance past is littered with huge amounts of time programming and learning to use tools which were subsequently discarded in favor of the latest technology. So what's my point? Before you buy that new box, make sure of what your needs are and that the requirements of the new item won't distract you from your ultimate goal of getting chicks (uh, I mean expressing yourself). I just wonder if the Orville is easier to program than it sounds. I also wonder about Kyma. The Echoplex may have hidden functions of which I am not aware yet, but its appearance is very straightforward and it took very little time to get comfortable with the interface. Perhaps my point is that I am waiting for the arrival of a doubleneck Starr Labs controller ( http://www.starrlabs.com/specials.html ) with which to control the EDP. Has anyone had any success triggering and controlling loops from such an instrument? And I am curious--Italo, any recordings of you and the Orville available online? Gary