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I had an SP-808 for two days an I took it back! Not because it wasn't good, but because i 'thinks' differently than I do. I have lots of experience with different samplers (Akai MPC-2000 mostly) and Hard Disk recording (I bought one of the first Roland DM-80's...$15k ouch). And the SP-808 is a strange combination of the two ("don't understand it? wanna kill it..."). I really like the MC-505. The most obvious addition to your rig would be a REPEATER. You would be able to sample "LIVE" while in sync with your 505 and 808, the loop gets stored to the memory card, and anytime you wish you could 'fly' your Repeater loops over to the 808. Personally I would rather have the REPEATER alongside a regular hard Disk recorder (VS-1680 etc...). I have a computer-based system now, and I intend to use te Repeater for loop construction while synced to my MAC. hope that helps, John In a message dated 9/20/00 9:17:47 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: << About a month ago I invested a little on the SP-808 Groove Sampler by Roland . I bought this machine without know a damned thing about sampling and was wondering if it was worth it or not ? I've never been on any other type of sampler . Does anyone have any tips on how to make this machine do what I want it to do , or do I upgrade . >>