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>sometimes you have to do this lame job, too. >What instrument do you play, rich? >curious,,,italo No, i don't understand. What 'lame job' are you referring to that i 'have to do'? Guitar is my primary instrument, but I consider myself a songwriter and soundscape generator mostly. so i also sing and play some bass, keys, hammered dulcimer, drum patterns/songs via drum machines, and a bit of found sound/sampling more recently, as well as considering looping and sound processing 'instruments' to a degree. rich