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Elby The PMC-10 can send two midi strings per pedal, not two program changes. Each midi strings can have a huge number of program changes, up to available memory (which is about 29K bytes). But you can have more than just program changes in the midi strings. You can program note on/off messages and trigger entire chords with one pedal. If you wanted, you can program a PMC-10 pedal up upload an entire sysex dump of whatever synths you were using. The external device jack will allow you to control non-midi devices (channel switching, start/stop, etc) anything that uses a switch to activate. The only other thing that beats the PMC-10 is the Rocktron All Access pedal. DavidO -----Original Message----- From: Mountain Man [mailto:mtman@cloud9.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 5:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pedal recommendations Hi folks, I'm looking at buying a set of midi pedals to be used for controlling a looper (when I get one), and also for doing things like sending sets of program change messages to my different synths, continuous controller messages from one or more expression pedals, and ... oh yes, the appropriate commands to a looper ! I'd really like a programmable unit that will allow multiple program changes on different midi channels with each button press. >From reading the specs of a number of pedals (some of which have *very* little info online), it looks to me like the Rocktron Midi Mate might be my best bet. It allows for 5 simultaneous program changes per button. Although the PMC10 is highly touted here, it looks to me like I'm only going to get 2 per button. Anyone have experience with the Rocktron for controlling loopers? Any word from the folks at Electrix about how this will work with the repeater <g> ? Any input that will help in making this decision much appreciated :) Elby