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My biggest gripe is the coloration of sound when it is in bypass- but I love mine- I personally think using an expression pedal with it is a requirerment- I have 2 patches that I "play" and create great pitch swoops like pre-bends on the guitar- It has some great possibilities- but if you are not willing to fine tune the patches you will find many are similar- but dig in a bit and it can reward you- not to mention that if you dont like it it wont be terribly difficult to re-sell- Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Michael LaMeyer <mlameyer@rcn.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Date: Friday, November 17, 2000 9:52 AM Subject: Re: vortex >The biggest gripe I have with mine is that it's pretty noisy. Apart from >that, it's lacking certain convenience features like midi patch changes >and >so on. But it does sound really freaky. If I can get up the gumption, I'll >post. > >Mike > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mark Francombe" <mark.francombe@mogul.com> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 6:41 AM >Subject: RE: vortex > > >> To put in my 2 pence worth... The Vortex is frustrating in a couple of >ways, >> as in the delay speed are ONLY tappable and not dial-in-able which can >be >> annoying for some situations, you DO tend to sit WITH the instructions >at >> all time cos each "patch" has a unique signal flow and some controls >change >> their use dependant on the patch, BUT and its a HUGE BUTT... the >> possibilities for new and interesting sounds are phenomenal! Strangly >the >> "preset" are all rather mild and its up to you to tweak them to really >find >> mangled stuff, but its all there! The three "KEY" features that make it >> stand out from any other box I have are... >> 1)ENVELOPE FOLLOWER: every patch has a parameter that is dependent on >the >> strength of the input signal (IE: a tremelo/pan that speeds up (or slows >> down) as the sound dies away, or... (this is great) a delay where the >> feedback level is dependant on signal level...dont gettit? OK you >play... >> you hear NO delays, you stop playing...delays appear and continue >> looping(yes) till you play, therfore you can play an 8 note sequence and >> then on the loop play OVER the second half, erasing what was there, but >> keeping the second half!) >> 2)MORPH: Any patch can be made to morph into another >> 3)PEDAL CONTROL: Any parameter can be put under pedal control, including >> morph, so you can stop half way thru the morph!!! ...or simulate the >> "Fatboyslim" speeding up loop thing... just play intrument...stop >playing... >> it loops... whammy the old pedal and... >> check it out now your a funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul >> brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothera funk soul brothersoul >> brothersoul brothersoul >> >brotherbrotherbrotherbrotherbrobrobrobrobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb b >> >bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb b >> bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb >> >> er...buy it! >> >> hope this helps >> >> >> Mark >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mountain Man [mailto:mtman@cloud9.net] >> Sent: 17. november 2000 11:55 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: vortex >> >> >> Hmmmm .... not very encouraging. Yes, I'm in the "found one (on the >> internet) and deciding to buy" category. And it's not possible to go >> try it out. Here on the East coast they seem to be much more of a >> rarity (along with used/trade/rent music stories and pawn shops - at >> least where I live. Damn!) Anyone else with an opinion? (and perhaps >> some sound samples? <g>) >> >> Thanks very much for your opinion, Rich :) >> >> Elby >> >> >> All in jest...and there will definitely be some who >> disagree, but >> IMHO, it makes the same sound as beating your head >> against the wall. >> That's the only sound i heard...because i kept beating >> my head >> against the wall trying to make the damn thing work!!! >> >> Seriously, some folks say it does magical things, and >> it does sound >> like nothing else sometimes. I just found it >> incredibly frustrating >> trying to fine tune or create my own patches. You just >> keep turning >> the dials until ya hit something, and then go "....oh, >> ok, i guess >> that's how feedback #1 set at 32 on 'Cycloid' >> sounds...", or >> something like that. Good luck trying to 'recreate' a >> sound if you >> didn't save the patch. >> >> Have you found one and are deciding on whether to buy >> or not, or are >> you just curious and want to hear one? Where are you >> located? In >> Southern California, they are quite common...they pop >> up in the >> Recycler often and the used/trade/rent music stores or >> pawn shops >> often have one or two that they've been sitting on for >> a couple of >> years. >> >> If you're ok with the UI, you're set... >> >> rich >> >