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Hi, I wish I could be more specific. Not possible w/o Me doing a bit of research. I'd rather compose. You're the academian. Here's a tip. Contact the Foundation For Shamanic Studies (something like that). Do a web search. Michael Harner runs it. What you find are references to what you are looking for. In harner's book, Way Of The Shaman, he writes about a shamanic initiation someplace in Mexico, I think. An over the top psychedelic experience. during the experience, he confronts a very threatening dragon. He later relates this meeting to the shaman who laughs. The shaman describes the dragon and it's meaning - reference Hopi mythology. Same meaning, essentially. Later, Harner runs into some missionaries working the area for Jesus. They tell him of the biblical reference to the exact experience he had. Very interesting stuff. Looping? Drums. Perhaps the experience, itself - "looping" through cultures. Mythology - parallel symbols. Then, the vehicle employed to reach the state required to "meet" the symbol. Drums, chants, dancing, powerful drugs, repetitive movements and sounds, focused attention (hypnosis), etc. Good luck. Michael At 05:30 AM 12/7/00 -0600, you wrote: >Michael, > >Could you please be more specific? The subjects you mentioned contain >hundereds of volumes. Any specific titles? > >>There is actually a lot written on the subject: >looping/unconscious/symbols/meaning. > >Shamanic literature >Ecstatic dancing >Voodoo >Drumming >Native American >Etc. > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >