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i am also very interested in being part of any type of looping movement. a looping festival is a great idea! we could host this in austin texas at a number of venues. please feel free to email me directly both at jimmy@loadhandler.com and jimmyg@jimmygeorgearts.com to discuss further. i think that having an annual looping festival is a great idea. i would happily drive else where if need be to join such a cause. peace jimmy george -----Original Message----- From: Mike Biffle [mailto:Mbiffle@svg.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:39 PM To: GLOBAL@cruzio.com; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A CALL TO CREATE LIVE GRASSROOTS LOOPING FESTIVALS Rick Walker wrote... > I recently wrote a letter to a fellow respected looping musician asking him if there was a chance of setting up a looping festival in the city that he lives in. This is part of the letter I recieved back from him in reply (which also generously shared contact and club information in his city): >> He wrote: >> "........Well, as far as 'my city' being "happening"...I'd say there's about fifty musicians who work together in various loose-knit configurations and attend each other's shows (in groups of a half-dozen or so). There's no audience beyond that......... I'm not really interested in setting up a mini-festival. I dealt with that ..... where I used to live and it was a massive pain in the ass for very little return. The public doesn't really care how you make interesting sounds, unless perhaps it's something exotic and fashionable such as the Theremin--they just want to hear something interesting......." To which Rick replied... > I hear what you say about looping and looping festivals. It is virtually the same here. We've only had 50-100 people per show for 4 looping shows. To be frank, though, I couldn't care less about popularity. I care about the quality of the work and the nurturing of young artists in a culture that undervalues their unique contributions... snip... > My point is that community and energy are more powerful, culturally speaking than pure monetarily driven commercialism... snip... > My point? Energy, Community and Creativity is what changes our culture for the better. I've gotta jump in here as well... Regardless of audience demographics, I've found that meeting other musicians and creating community is really what drives MY playing and motivates me. Dialog with your peers really brings a sense of shared effort and minimizes the feeling of lonliness pervasive in "unpop" culture. Many of us are lucky enough to be playing semi-normal sounding music which somehow fits into an existing scene. What about those really wanting to experiment? Push limits? Our audience is first and foremost our peers... other players out there trying to have dialog with each other and learn from each other. This same problem exists in radical free-improv music... the so called "creative" music scene really has an intense, thriving worldwide community.. certainly with a small devout audience... but more certainly fueled by a commitment among the players to follow the creative impulse honestly **where ever** it arises regardless of current trends and audience demographics... It's been discussed to death recently over at the BA-NEWMUS list, and it's apparent that REALLY going for it and doing whatever you really feel like, is never going to appeal to large masses... It's too damned unpredictable... but it sure is HONEST and because of that it gains a fanatically loyal commitment by a core group of artists, and an ever growing group of listeners. What's so awful about that? I'm proud to be "unpop"! Rick... > Somebody once said that artists are the antennae of a culture, picking up and/or creating the emerging trends before the sweep over the culture. I agree. I've heard this said too... Thanks for reminding me of this Rick... I completely agree also. Working together NOW... talking... playing... experimenting... learning... All of this will inform our collective growth and make for a meaningful dialog which will MAKE SENSE, in some way to listeners. We'll ultimately be connected and not lonely anymore... or maybe we'll all be lonley together? I can live with that! 8-) Anyway... I'm off MY soap box now as well... Best, -Miko Biffle