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I don't miss the faders since you can control some things on the DL4 with a pedal (the delay pre-loop only) plus you have switches for reverse and 1/2 spped, but what I do miss is the fact that when using the looper it's not a delay so there is no feedback to play with. Also doesn't have that melancholy sound of the EH16, great unit for the $ though. Martin Shellard > From: stanitarium@earthlink.net > as far as the DL-4 wouldnt you miss the slider/faders available on > the eh?