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If you want to get really swirly, put a phaser in the feedback loop. Bring delay returns up to their own channel(s) on the desk and use the aux sends to control feedback, then its use the desk's eq to provide filtering as you describe. Hours of endless fun playing the desk, don't even need a signal source... -----Original Message----- From: whiteoakstudios [mailto:whiteoakstudios@supanet.com] Sent: 05 January 2001 07:51 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping tips and tricks 2001 Another suggestion. The way I work is I 'trap' a sound for as long as I want it to run by having the feedback path set at unity. This is under the control of a footpedal. When I want to let the loop die away I ease back on the pedal according to how slowly I want the loop to die away, (I use this method to quieten the loop if necessary too). What I've found is that introducing a gentle low pass filter into this loop makes the dying loop sound more natural and de-focusses it in terms of the listener's attention. An interesting effect is to place a high pass filter in the feedback path so the sound kind of fizzles out - good for spacey stuff : ) Gareth > suggestion > > put a 1/4 sec fade on the start of your sample and a 1/4 fade out at the > end - no more > nasty clicks when u loop! > > concept7@earthspike.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: dan mcmullen <dog@well.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 11:09 PM > Subject: looping tips and tricks 2001 > > > > anyone care to share their latest looping technique discoveries? i'm > > imagining quick little tips or tricks that make your looping easier or > more > > fun. even "obvious" things that may have been mentioned before would >be > > good. to get things rolling: > > > > - when overdubbing, i recently put a volume pedal of some sort in front of > > the looper to avoid the sharp little blips in background noise from > turning > > overdubbing on & off by fading in before & after the overdub. this is > > particularly useful when looping acoustic instruments using a >microphone > > while hearing the current loop on monitors. (this probably falls into the > > obvious category, but when i finally set this up, it made overdubbing much > > more "relaxed".) [general interest] > > > > - i'm using the Peavy PC1600 fader box to control feedback on an EDP using > > MIDI. by making one fader the "master" of the feedback footpedal, i >can > > set the minimum feedback level that the footpedal can generate by lowering > > the master fader. this lets me use the entire range of the footpedal's > > travel to smoothly make a transition from full feedback to the exact > amount > > i'm aiming for. much easier than trying to judge what fraction of the > > footpedal's travel will get me the right amount of feedback. >[edp/peavy > > pc1600] > > > > i may think of more later, but for now, ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-... > > dan > > ___ > > dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention > > mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 > > pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF > > > > > This message is for the use of the named person only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. Abcaz Limited reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them to be the views of any such entity. Please note that it is your responsibility to scan any attachments for viruses. This communication is from Abcaz Limited, whose office is at 1000 Great West Road, Brentford, Middlesex, TW8 9HJ, England: telephone +44 (0)208 326 7000.