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Thanks for the response Dan, I am very concerned about this issue and found it depressing that the one and only response thus far has been further confirmation of this problem. I hope I am wrong on this, but I am thinking this issue is much more common than we know. I would like to know how many users are running their EDP's in stereo, specifically units from that notorious first Gibson batch of which my units are from. I laid out many dollars for these two units and they have not been right since I got them. I realize that nothing is perfect, especially in this hyper paced world of technology, but if I have the story straight, the EDP has been in development and production in various forms for a decade. That is one of the main reasons I went with the EDP. I've had way to many frustrating experiences with PC/DAW systems that always crashed and thus I bought into Gibson's pitch that these units are stable due to being dedicated pieces of gear and that they have been developed/refined over many years. That was music to my ears. I couldn't wait to use these cool old/new solid pieces of gear and go live with them. Now that I've tried to get them to work as advertised for many months without success, I have zero confidence in obtaining that goal with these units. The Repeater was announced just after I purchased the EDP's and I thought, oh well, I still like the EDP's (when they are behaving..!) and the Repeater will probably not become mature in regards to OS fixes and updates for at least a year. Well at this rate, it feels like my EDP's might not be functional by then or maybe ever. What can one say other than - THIS SUCKS. It is also disturbing to me that Gibson's EDP Guru - Shane Radke - admits to not knowing much about syncing issues. I know this to be true because I sent these units back to Gibson for repair and the syncing problems persisted. Please understand that my experiences with Shane Radke have all been top notch. He is very helpful and sincere but he recommended that I talk to Kim Flint directly, which seems kind of suspect in my opinion. If syncability is a key feature, then let's get some training/testing procedures in place. Kim, are you out there....? Please throw me/us a frickin bone here ..... (not quit the devil, but I think Dr. Evil will do...). PS: Dan, great idea about getting Gibson EDP schematics, but I think in this case (I.E. - my units are under warranty and have never worked right) Gibson should take care of the problem ASAP, not me........... Thanks, Philip prgconsulting@prodigy.net > speak of the devil... :-) > > just recently borrowed a friend's edp to do some stereo stuff, & many of > these same symptoms occurred, primarily the drifting out of phase bit. this > was most notable when the slave EDP would sometimes display the 3 'dots' > indicating it is waiting for then next cycle to start some operation, >even > though quantize is off. also tried different trs cables, confirmed all the > midi params were set the same w/ sync out on both units, etc. > > any way to diagnose this problem Kim? is there any point to putting a > scope on the BrotherSync signal? if so, what would we look for? > > thanks, > dan > > ps- any chance you could convince Gibson to release schematics for the EDP, > in leau of a service manual? > ___ > dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention > mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 > pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF >