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the boomerang has been upgraded. the sound is much better now. i also have an older old dated one. we run it through a small makie board and other goodies which brings my vocals and guitar through it. with a little tweaking the sound is the same. the v2 upgrade is cheap and has really improved the sound. it is like two boomerangs in one now. if you can get to a music store that carries these bad boys and ab the lot of them. also my boomerang has been through hell and back physically and is still solid. they are built like a tank! best wishes, jimmy george -----Original Message----- From: Antonio Loro [mailto:antonio_loro@yahoo.ca] Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: no-frills loopers? Boomerang competition? Hi. I've been researching what's available for loopers . I'm looking for a simple unit that's dedicated to making loops. This looks like the best source of information out there, teach me. I must begin to loop soon, I am growing old, there is little time. There seem to be a lot of multi-effects units like the Line6 DL4 that also do a little looping, but since I've already got effects, I want to minimize redundancy. I also see units like the Zoom ST-224 that look more involved, more geared to DJ-type stuff and less geared to off-the-cuff real-time looping (i.e. harder to use for these purposes than the Boomerang). I just want to be able to loop and overdub layers of different parts. (I am a vocalist and a guitarist and whatever else my whim leads me to.) The Boomerang looks like the best tool, but a couple of complaints I've seen in reviews are of its sound quality and of the fact that as you overdub, the previous layers begin to fade out, limiting how many layers you can stack. So far I've been unsuccessful in finding the answer to my question, so I ask you: What other dedicated looping units are competing with the Boomerang? Similar recording time, similar ease of use, similar price? Better sound quality? etc. It's strange, but I can't seem to find anything that competes with the Boomerang on its own turf. I'd be delighted if you informed me of my ignorance. Oh, one last thing. In my travels, I came across a site www.reedkotler.com that sells what look like quite useful tools for transcribing music. They also happen to be able to loop (maybe it deserves inclusion in the Loopers' Delight page). Now, if only it could overdub, and maybe a couple of footswitches... Thanks, see ya. _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca