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I owned the vg-8 ex and am getting a vg-88 ex before too long (the baby brother). It doesn't loop, but there is no other more power system around. It doesn't track - it's realtime processing. Effects galore. Sounds galore. Crazy sounds galore. Amps and guitars and pickups. Basically, this is everything you can think about in one box. Go to vg-8.com and read more (old site) or get on vg-8 users group at egroups.com Al Dimeola uses one all over the place on infinite desire. All the guitars, just about, are vg-8 guitars. You name, it does it, pretty much. Very very powerful. As far as looping, you can lay down a bass, jump over to slide guitar for a lick, grab a nice crunchy lead, then grab a freeaky string orchestra and play the jaws theme with more bass in it than Stanely Jordan through a wall of Marshall 4x12s. The clean and acoustic sounds are great - mind you electro acoustic. Doug Bonneville > -----Original Message----- > From: Legion [mailto:Legion@voicenet.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 5:31 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com; DH > Subject: Roland VG8 Guitar system? > > > I've got a line on a used Roland VG8 guitar system (Floor unit, GK2a > pick, cable, etc). I'm only passingly familiar with this unit so I'd > like to get actual users feelings on how well it tracks, how flexible > the sounds are, how it compares to the other GR1/9/30 series, etc. > Basically any info from someone who has used one for a while. > > Does it have built in effects? To be on topic, can it Loop? :) > > Finally what's a fair price for such a unit these days? I know they were > pretty darn expensive new if I recall correctly. > > Email privately if you feel it's more appropriate. > > Thanks for any/all help > > >