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At this point I can't help but to believe that this thread is looking more and more like a justification for random noise. To use a quote made in regards to another subject (in this case I'll apply it to music), "I don't know what it is. But I know it when I see (hear) it". Just because something may or may not be commercially successful does not validate it. As a guitarist I was mortified when Kurt Cobane (after killing himself) was compared to Jimi Hendrix. Hendrix was a genius. Kurt Cobane was anything but. As Wynton Marsallis once said, "Some of the music out there now is like The Emperor's New Clothes. Just because we see flashy images, or we need to be convinced its real music doesn't justify it. Sometimes bad music is just that. Bad music. And often very few people are willing to go against the popular media and say just that. This music is awful." If one feels the need to validate what they're doing it seems to me to be a level of insecurity. If one is comfortable with they're own talent, and effort, than they're is no one that needs convincing. Unless of course the very argument they make is being made just to convince themselves. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com