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>From: "Jon Wagner" <jondrums@hotmail.com> >Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Integrity of Performance and the Sample >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:22:57 -0000 > >>But then I took it one step further: I began using my acoustic bass >guitar >>more for solo/loop stuff, and began playing the body of the bass as a >>percussion instrument and making loops in real time with that. Now I >>prepare the bass with aligator clips for faux gamelan type sounds, use >>chopsticks, different muting techniques, and, of course, sound processing >>to alter the timbres. > >Max, others: > I have found myself in exactly the oposite position! I am a >drummer/percussionist trying to find ways to include melodies and >harmonies >in my performance. I am thouroughly opposed to using prerecorded >samples/loops because I passionately believe that live performance is >incredible powerful. So I find myself in the position of wishing for more >melodic possibilities using percussion. I am in conflict between my >minamalist nature and my wish for more molodic possibilities, which keeps >me >from going out and buying a marimba or similar. By minimalist, I mean I >don't believe in thinking that I need to go buy something new so that I >can >make _good_ music. I believe that I can make music with whatever I have >at >the moment. So I have been working on techniques to get tones out of my >drums. I have also been trying to (gasp!) sing, chant, and use body music >(I never thought I had even a passable voice, but I'm finding ways to use >it). > I would love to hear ideas that other people have in this vein. Max: >you >might try some ideas that have worked for me in the past - actually use >your >body to make rhythms. Stomp your feet, clap your hands, slap your knees, >whistle, hum, and make farting noises under your armpit.... Of course >this >requires a microphone, but think of the possibilities. I think this sort >of >thing could really endear you to the audience because these are things >everyone can do. Plus you can practice these techniques anywhere! >bye- >jon Jon et all, About ten years ago I band I played in did some shows with a band called Caterwaul. Their drummer was really good. On his kit he included one of those african instruments (and forgive me, I don't know what its called) that consists of a wooden bx with the topcut into differently porportioned wooden tines (used to see them at "Natural Wonders" type stores) anyway, during his solo(s) while playing his rhythms he would maintain a melody on this instrument. Came off as a very cool effect. I realize the consists of the "something new" that you were trying to avoid, but I thought it worth sharing all the same. -skully _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com