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I think, with dj's it's the same as with any other musician : they're creative or they're not. I know a few dj's personally, and some of them are very good. The way they mix two turntables and a rhythmmachine is, a) not easy and b) often very creative. I have had the chance to hear the records they play individually, and then what they do with it. They can turn even a mediocre or cheesy record in combination with other stuff into something new and wondefull. I mean, Richie Hawtin, Derrick May, ...and over here in Belgium Jan Van Biesen...these guys are amazing. I've also seen dj's tweaking the knobs of their mixer to create the impression they're doing something more than just playing a record, while I know the record they're playing has the filtering already on it, or I can see they're just out of time with what is actually happening. The last year, my friends and I call that 'doing a Moby'. We could also have called it 'doing a Spice Girl'(no pun intented). Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Eberwein" <robert_eberwein@hotmail.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: cheating > > I'm very interested in this distinction: *When is it fraud?* I did a concert > once [I sang and played diatonic harp] where the playback contained some > harp. It was too late to change anything- the guy hiring us didn't care- and > it was good money. One of my fears was: *What if the audience thinks ALL the > harp is on tape*? And if the poor sods don't notice or care, why not lay > down 5 tracks of interesting harp at home, and just concentrate on singing? > [and what makes having a little keyboard on tape better than lip-sync... > etc, etc, etc] > > To tell the truth, I have never taken the time to think this all the way > through- - -never came to a conclusion. But it's what got me thinking about > the Echoplex and looping in general [That, and that Cello player]; It allows > you to bypass those ethical/vanity considerations- as you are playing- in > concert, if you will- with the playback. > > Of course, *DJ's* take this to an extreme; taking credit for stuff they > couldn't conceptualize in a 1000 years. But then, few people consider >that > the entire techno/DJ thing is just disco married to Political Correctness > [Wannabe Gangbangers singing to China Grove- - - and nobody blows the > whisthle- - -sigh]--Sigh. > > Did someone check my spelling? > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >