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>> I personally use a GT-5 with speaker simulation, but when I WAS using >an amp, I found the HK Red Box to be a good sounding, cheap, small and >simple solution. You can either take the preamp out, or put it between >the power amp speaker output and the speaker. The new ones don't use >batteries either... Then there's the good old Sans Amp Classic and GT2. >-Miko > hmm... if you imitate the nonlinearities of an amp between the power amp >speaker output and the speaker instead of using the amp you still get the >same problem... I'm talking between the pwr amp and speakers of the **guitar** amp... (allows you to get all the nuance of the pre-power stages of the amp) *that* gets the signal out to the board where you can then add time domain and full-range stuff which then goes on to the pa/full-range speaker system. -Miko