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Please share! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (Loop.pooL)" <GLOBAL@cruzio.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:19 PM Subject: How can you play in the correct speed if you don't hear the drums first? > Matthias wrote: > I never thought of this option. How can you play in the correct speed > if you don't hear the drum first? > > > For what it's worth Matthias, in a new wave band I led in the early > eighties, Tao Chemical, we wanted to be able to start songs without count > ins for maximum theatricality. We practised > starting the song without the guitarist and the bassist knowing what the > tempo was (well, we knew what the relative tempo approach is)....just a > visual cue from me about where the downbeat occurred. > > A great trick we developed to teach ourselves how to do this: Make sure > that what ever you are going to loop (your melodic part, that is) has a > value of at least one eight note (if your meter is in 16th notes) but > preferabbly a dotted eighth note or a quarter note. Since you are > controlling the "on" event, you hit the downbeat melodic or harmonic figure > as you hit 'play' on the drum machine and listen like hell!!! What happens > is that you will hear at least the down beat and the next 'hihat' or > hihat-esque sound if not 3 or 4 of these metric units before you have to > play your next chord or melody note. You then teach yourself how to get > tempi from only two or three events. > This is very jarring at first, but, believe it or not after you have done it > 10 or 20 times at a few different tempi you get the hang of it and, most > importantly, you quit being anxious about coming in with your next event > (the anxiety that almost invariably causes human beings to play ahead of > the beat). This is very effective in performance. It comes across as very > organic even when one is playing to a sequenced track or a drum machine. > > Another good thing to do is to learn how to play behind the beat or ahead of > the beat with total impunity. This is a longer discussion and if you or > anyone else wants to hear it, I'll be happy to > post a very cool trick I invented for teaching a rank beginner how to do > this against a metronomic track. Just let me know. Right now, I'm about > to clean install my whole friggin' system to prepare for a big > production/writing gig that starts next week. My system has been > increasingly buggy and I can't afford for it to fuck up on me next week. I > may be off line for a day or two, consequently. Wish me luck, Rick > Walker (loop.pool) >