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Nice thoughts Andre... >Something that occured to me when this thread started is that Thurston >Moore and Lee Ranaldo (and I believe Michael Gira as well) spent time in >Glenn Branca's ensembles in the early '80s prior to forming Sonic Youth >(and Swans, in Gira's case). So the cross-breeding bbetween academic >new music and rock goes way back, though it really seems to have come >to a head over the last few years. I haven't taken the time to investigate Branca, but he sure seemed to have tapped into the NY noise/experimental scene for his big guitar ensembles. Page Hamilton of Helmet was also a contributor, if i remember correctly. >but I still remember how different Nirvana >sounded next to everything else coming out of a mainstream AOR rock >radio station 10 years ago (and no, that wasn't my intro to "indie rock" >by any means.) there was a previous thread mentioning how Cobain considered what Nirvana did 'pop music', which if you compare Nirvana's Nevermind to the other bands they either lived in the vicinity of, were labelmates with or toured with...Nirvana was kindof pop music, IMO. Put on Nevermind first...then put on Ozma by the Melvins, or God's Balls by Tad, or Goat by the Jesus Lizard...see which one's your co-workers can hum along too! >Well, there are some people whose influence is so vast and far-reaching >that it impacts an entire zone of music. A kid might start a band >because he loves Limp Bozkit or Korn, without ever having heard Jimi >Hendrix, but you'd be hard pressed to say that Jimi didn't play a >serious role in shaping the musical language that the kid is operating >in 30 years down the road... good point, but... >The kid playing Korn tunes on his Ibanez 7-string guitar might laugh at >someone like Steve Vai, without realizing that Vai was responsible for >designing the Ibanez 7-string eleven years ago... umm...George Van Epps (sp?) This jazz guitarist was playing 7-strings probably before Vai was born. I'm still searching for more info on this dude...anybody know more, or have recording suggestions? I know a guitar manufacturer (Gretch?) released a Van Epps 7-string guitar way back, so phooey on Ibanez/Vai, even though your point is valid! :) I was thinking it would be so fun to pick up a Van Epps seven string...if i could find one...they're a big semi-hollow jazz style guitars... and start playing all that downtuned Korn/Bizkit shit on it... best, rich