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Firs, Thanks Jimmy for the explanation of the Rang v2... it's cleared a lotof questions up. My present setup is as follows; I use a JamMan. Rather than being in loop mode, I run it as a tap-tempo delay with the feedback set to 1 (ie no feedback) and the mix set to 100% (only delayed signal coming out). I run my signal into the L input (the JM sums to mono), out the L output (after a suitable delay), through a volume pedal, back into the R input, and finally out via the R output. A footswitch (actually an old distortion pedal with the volume right down) controls whether or not the device is recording. This all has many advantages: (1) the obvious one - full feedback control (2) you can change the loop length on the fly, grabbing parts of the loop and looping them (by tapping a new loop shorter than the last with the feedback full up) or containing multiples of the original loop (by tapping longer than the original loop with the fb full up). (3) The tap and record functions are separated. However, it has two big downsides: (1) It's impossible to get exactly unity (100%) feedback by balancing the input and output levels; it's always either just under (eventually stuff fades out) or slightly over (gets progressively louder). (2) The JM isn't exactly designed as a foot pedal! It takes up loads of space on the floorboard and sits in a nest of spaghetti. Now what I'm after is something to simplify the whole rig. I don't need MIDI or anything else, just little more than a tap-tempo delay with feedback which can be altered between 0 and 100% exactly (like a hold button or something). I know the EDP will do exactly what I want, but it will also do a million other things I'd never use and besides I can't afford one. MIDI control of the JM would also help if the MIDI control chart had been something sensible (like all between 1-10). It's great they keep producing all these new toys, but it seems the one thing I want to get keeps being missed.... Mike