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> Jazz musicians start studying their Bird/Monk/Miles/Trane etc, in >adolescence.All go through a period where they practice three-to-four >hours >a day for years and years. That is a generalisation. I didn't start playing jazz until I was 20 or so. I couldn't play ambidextrously till after my 21st birthday. I practice to learn tunes and improve my basslines (I play a Hammond in a organ/guitar/drums trio). Alot of jazz musicians have an enormous technical vocabulary but no idea how to actually play listenable music (and I'm not implying atonality as "unlistenable", I mean the whole machine-gun style of soloing I see all too often in modern jazz). I guess what I'm saying is that for me as a player, I've learned more about playing jazz from Fripp-style ambient looping and hanging out with punk rawkers than I have from watching scholastic jazzers. Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com