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Here's the deal.....If you need a Looper TODAY, just get something else. If you need a Looper that will STORE your loops as well as transfer them to and from a Computer, AND do time stretching in Real Time...then you should wait until the Repeater comes out (it's the only one). I can assure you that it IS NOT Vaporware. The problem is that it is so powerful and has so many features....the Software is going to be extrememly complex. Get a Line6 Delay now, and then you can use it for FX when the Repeater is out :) Be thankful that Electrix is using this Discussion Group for Feedback. You won't see Roland/Boss around here looking for suggestions for the Loop Station. Their R&D is all done in Japan! I share your pain...I've been waiting for Repeater since I saw it (an empty box of course) at Summer NAMM last year! JMP In a message dated 3/19/01 8:50:53 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: << It's time to get an Echoplex. Sorry Electrix. This is obviously vaporware. What was that thing in the quicktime video of the namm demo? It seemed to be a working Repeater, so what's the problem? Fess up: you are unable to offer that product for $599 list. It would have been nice if Electrix had been honest from the start. >>