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<< Some remarks I dont get it 100% 1-why dont you slave the plex to the drum machine sync in) or we need more exactly what you want to achieve. or do you need to sync on the fly to a band to start the dm machine ? why do you need to record successive loops without recording anything an empty loop without drum machine doesnt make sense?? >> It's hard to explain in a sentence. Here's what I'm trying to do: I have my drum machine sync'ed via MIDI to the EDP. Say, three loops are defined on the EDP. I have the EDP set to loopcopy SOUND rather than TIMING (because the TIMING only loopcopy doesn't work to my knowledge). If I then record a pattern in loop 1 at a certain tempo then stop the pattern, it will play and drive the drum machine at a suitable tempo. If I then do a LOOPCOPY, the EDP will copy the sound from loop #1 and the timing. However, I don't want the sound from loop #1 to be copied to loop #2. Only the timing to drive the drum machine. A workaround would be to, perhaps, enter bass guitar patterns first, which would be somewhat innocuous to the rest of the song. One can foot-tap in at an appropriate interval the start/stop of the 1st loop without any other sound which would then start the drum machine. Then one could layer whatever, say, guitar pattern, chords, whatever over the drums. But, there are very interesting results achieved when some pattern is played at an arbitrary tempo and the drum machine/bass machine (in this case a Zoom 234) starts at the arbitrary tempo. The somewhat mundane default patterns in the drum machine really come alive. Anyhow, that's my sad tale. Regards, Paul