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Behringer copy some designs and constructions.That is not a wonder to me. A lot of tools we use,are mostly copies of something else. In the pharmaceutical buisiness we call such "products" generica.After a time such companies offers such copies of products at a low price.So I trace Behringer as a "Generica" reseller. The "original" producer had immense costs to develop a "medical" product,so he is protected by International laws for some years.After this time everyone can bring a "copy" of this product on the market. Actually seen on the debate in Africa,where gouverments want to allow to produce copies of medical product-wich can help a little bit against the negative effects of HIV infection.The Pharmaindustry will not allow it,because it is still in the protected phase of the copyright.But in Africa no one can afford this medecine. So these gouverments decided to ripp Generica from the original design. >From this case,I have also my doubts about Dow Chemical and Co.Profit orientated. The latest News was that they have found now a compromise. Nevertheless,the discussion before it was not a sign of morality in this case. Behringer rips maybe somethings of.But all devices are not totally brandnew technology, wich need a special protection.Functions are nearly similar.A mixing console will be always a mixing console.How it will be designed depends on the engineers.And most parts of a mixing console come again from different producers,where all M-Console produce shop. The same is valid for FX-devices and other audio equipment. According to the streetprice,we should not wonder,that Behringer products are not the best,but they are also not filthy. If we trace it really strict and puristic,the whole digital Music products were ripped off from Standford University.FM Synthesis was developed there in the seventies,a first commercial product-the DX7 was released in 1983. The same for phyical Modelling.Developed in the early eighties and manifested as consumertool in 1993 -again Yamaha with VL1. One word to China.The situation for labours there is really not OK.but in Indonesia,Malaysia and Taiwan the simple labour is in a similar situation like in China.Ever seen how they work there ? And what are there rights ? The only difference between China and the others is the political system. And when HongKong was still under british gouverment.Ever seen old people living in their birdcage ? After a life of long hard work,this was their last place for living.Two Squaremeter space with a hight of 1,5 meter.Looking like a birdcage. And at least,everyone knows,that Bill Gates Microsoft is the worlds greatest Ripper. Marty ---------- >Von: Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: What the heck is Behringer doing? >Datum: Son, 10. Jun 2001 19:46 Uhr > >>Most producers let produce in China,Taiwan,Indonesia and so on.Full >>assembled or half assembeled. > >I have nothing against Taiwan and Indonesia... > >China is kinda disturbing to me because at least >some of the work is done with slave labour (I doubt that >they have prisoners putting together circuit boards, though). > >But I can't just not buy computers and electronics, it's >what I do. > >(I mean, I do a lot of things, and that's one of them.) > > >>So if you avoid to buy Behringer for such reasons,you >>should also avoid to >>buy products of all this other companies who does it the same. >>At least there will be not left a lot wich you can choose from ! > >No, I wouldn't avoid Behringer for just that reason, it'd be crazy. > >But given also that they do copy other designs, which bothers me >as a programmer and thus an intellectual property worker! >and that their stuff is a little flimsy, >I'll give their products a pass. > > /t > > > that was fast > >.......all legal games of chess ><http://solveChess.com/chess?refresh=0>...... >.....programmer's documentation ><http://solveChess.com/doc>.................. >