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I think that the San Francisco loopers have gone the way most artists have gone in San Francisco: the dot.com rent insanity is currently destorying the better part of the creative spaces to play in the city. I know that really creative people like Matt Davignon are up there. I'm still waiting for the first San Francisco Loop Festival. We are trying to find a spot to bring the World's First Bass Looping Tour* to San Francisco and we are having a hell of a time finding a place to do it Part of this may be the short notice that we have had to work out, but I have been a little shocked at how hard it is to bring a pretty cool thing like this to the city. I, also, am not a San Franciscan, but has that ever stopped me from commenting.........................................hell no ;-) Ciao for now, Rick Walker (loop.pool) *(with Michael Manring, Steve Lawson, myself -as the tour's only non-performing bassists-and Max Valentino)