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Rick wrote: >One thing about the traditional use of the tablas is that Indian rhythms are >very linear and are not ostinato/repetitive like the >west african/caribbean/middleeastern paradigm. Have to call you on that one, Rick! :-) The rhythms of traditional North Indian classical music are truly cyclical -- if you think about it, a theka is a basic rhythmic loop, outlining the taal. Of course, there's a world of difference between theka and various tabla or pakhawaj compositions in solo performance. But as a sitarist my training has been to listen to the ostinato patterns of the theka to hear where stressed and unstressed beats fall within the taal cycle, so as to calculate how many beats are left until the return of the 'sam' (= "one" or highly stressed first beat). An Indian musician hears the taal very much as a rhythmic ostinato, over which the melody is woven. By contrast, Indian musicians hear most other non-Indian musical rhythms as being "linear" or non-resolving. But in solo Indian drumming performance I would agree -- it's often very difficult to keep track of the taal since there is so much "layakari" literally "rhythm work") of doubling/quadrupling/octupling the tempo, introducing cross-rhythms (e.g., 7 against 16), rubato, etc. In this model, the drummer will often return to the theka as a resting point in which to refresh the audience's memory of the taal itself, something similar to playing the "head" in a jazz composition after many choruses of improvisation. >I am extremely fond of playing something like Mozambique >from Cuba using all of the delicious melodic aspects of the tabla. >It really grooves and is very unconventional. The late Collin Walcott (of the ensemble Oregon) used to do this with tabla as well -- he'd incorporate very standard Afro-Cuban cowbell type rhythms on the tabla and they always sounded great. >Any one who has made a serious study out of this most amazing of hand >drums would know that I'm NOT an accomplished tabla player Nor am I. As an instrumentalist within the Indian classical tradition, I'm expected to have a functional knowledge of tabla. I've had training and can play VERY rudimentary tabla, but certainly not to the point of providing accompaniment to a vocalist or instrumentalist in a high level musical setting. But that doesn't necessarily mean I can't have fun with the tabla. And they certainly are great for looping. I also have a "tabla machine" which I use for standard ICM (Indian classical music) practice. This too is a great looping tool. I often use it to set up a very off-kilter rhythm bed, for instance an 11-beat taal versus a 7-beat taal, over which to improvise melodically. James