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At 9:35 PM -0400 6/21/01, shreeswifty wrote: ><x-charset iso-8859-1>Someone already has emile >did you not see my post? Sorry, I jumped in at the end of a thread during a busy work day. Cool. It would be more tempting if it weren't Win only. How interactive is it. I'm imagining something where I can interactively change the various tabla machine parameters described below, and send a clean, well-timed MIDI stream to my sampler (which of, course might have totally different sounds in it) The TalTrax CD is tempting me more.What is the difference between 1 and 2> >http://www.swarsystems.com/SwarShala/Cafe/ >Pat Pagano, Director >South East Just Intonation Society >http://indians.australians.com/meherbaba/ >http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 8:24 PM >Subject: Software Re: Looping Drummers who play tabla > > >> >> A software version of this would be really cool. (I used to write >> music software, but I'm way too busy with video software these days, >> so don't ask me.) Someone who knew Max and Indian music theory could >> probably cook one up. >> >> At 8:00 PM -0400 6/21/01, James Pokorny wrote: >> >>I also have a "tabla machine" >> >> >> >more info please.....michael >> > >> >Sure. Tabla machines have been discussed on-list before, and the >> >archives contain some pointers for sites to listen to some of these >> >devices, as well as places to purchase them. >> > >> >Basically, the "tabla machine" is an electronic device preprogrammed >> >to play the "theka" or basic pattern of beats in a "taal" (rhythmic >> >cycle) of Indian music. I've worked with two different machines, > > >the Taal Mala and the Riyaz Master Pro. Each of these has a > > >selection of preset taals, most of which are in common use in Indian > > >music, some more obscure or lesser-heard taals are represented as >> >well. There are controls for volume, pitch (since the smaller drum >> >of the tabla pair is tuned to the tonic of the vocalist or >> >instrumentalist), and tempo. There are also controls for "speed" >> >(as opposed to tempo) since the theka usually changes when playing >> >at different speeds. This control varies the theka for "vilambit" >> >(slow), "madhya" (medium) and "drut" (fast) speeds. Within each of >> >these speeds you can also accelerate/decelerate the tempo. >> > >> >From my experience with the two machines I've used, I prefer the >> >Riyaz Master Pro. However, to be fair, the version of Taal Mala I >> >had was from about 10 years ago -- in fact, it was the first >> >"electronic tabla." It used very plinky/thuddy synthetic tones that >> >tried to replicate the high and low drum sounds of the tabla, and >> >had a very tinny speaker that only seemed to function properly at > > >distoring volumes. But I've heard an updated version of the Taal > > >Mala which uses sampled tabla and sounds very good. The Riyaz > > >Master Pro also uses sampled tabla sounds and has a good speaker. >> > >> >One major caveat, though - none of these machines are going to sound >> >anything like a live tabla player. They were designed as a practice >> >tool for vocalists and instrumentalists. In India you generally pay >> >a tabla accompanist a fee to come over and practice with you, >> >particularly if the tabla player is senior to you in terms of age or >> >experience. While practicing, perhaps 95% of the time the tabla >> >player will play a steady "theka" while the vocalist or >> >instrumentalist practices rhythmic improvisations within the >> >framework of a composition. So the tabla machine serves this same >> >purpose - to give that "theka" to practice over. >> > >> >My advice if you're interested in a tabla machine (or any other >> >Indian instrument) is to see if someone you know is going to India, >> >then ask them to bring one back for you since the markup in the West > > >tends to be shockingly extreme. >> > >> >James >> >> -- >> >> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man >> persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress >> depends on the unreasonable man. >> >> -- George Bernard Shaw >> >> Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. >> Video Producer Image Processing Specialist >> Video for your HEAD! Boris FX >> http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com >> > > > ></x-charset> -- "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable man persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com