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after investigating Andre's bug I found the following just hit Multiply > Insert > Undo with a loop running then any further presses of undo will give you a short loop (time between the Multiply and Insert presses?) selected unpredictably from the original loop. (or silence) ...or pssssttttsssttststs digital glitching each Undo moves you to a different part of the loop , but eventually the EDP gives up and produces nothing. click ..of course these loopettes don't have crossfaded edges ..click and the other thing is that 2 brothersynced and Midi-linked EDP's often respond differently when the bugs are encountered, even though they are processing the same Input. andy butler