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Hi Rick, As of about a month ago, the Windows version of MAX/MSP with Pluggo probably following shortly thereafter, were still in the alpha development phase. Which means that Beta testing isn't ready... so don't hold your breath! It's being worked on happily now though, so at least expect to see it... 8-) I'm harried for time so this will be short, but major KUDOS for a great show Monday eve at the Bass Loopfest! I especially enjoyed your contributions to the overall improvs and your solo set... Best, -Miko >>> GLOBAL@cruzio.com 07/11/01 02:15PM >>> Pluggo has threatened for a long time to release a Windows version. Does anyone know if they have or if that is still in the works. I'm so into the 'wierd' and indiosyncratic when it comes to processing (as is my good friend and colleague, Miko B ;-) that I was very excited to hear about Pluggo and it's whole community of grassroots plugin developers. I think it would be very cool for everyone to share their resources regarding free and shareware plugins for both PC and Mac. We could even possibly create a special page at Loopers Delight (if that is feasible, Kim ;-) for looping processing resoursces. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)