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vERY GOOD POINT imo- oM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sottilaro" <sine@zerocrossing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:04 AM Subject: Re: DON'T TRUST THE SOUND MAN > While we're on the subject, WHAT THE HELL IS THE DEAL WITH ENGINEERS THAT FEEL THEY > NEED TO DRIVE THE SYSTEM TO THE POINT OF DISTORTION?! I know I'm not a spring > chicken, but even in my youth I found it nessacery to wear some form of ear > protection to many shows. I left a Beck show because all I could hear was a > barely sonic rumble and an annoying hiss. The fault of the venue? NOT. The > opening band sounded fine. Who does the sound person think they are helping when > they go for volume at the expence of sound quality? > > I had a funny experience once, as a sales person in a home audio store. The > owner/engineer of a local recording studio, Pyramid Sound in Ithaca NY, was in > looking at some higher end speakers. As I took him around our selection, he > immediatly perked up WHEN I PLAYED HIM THE BRIGHTEST SPEAKERS WITH THE HARSHEST > HIGH END WE HAD! The speakers, IMOP, sounded horrible. They were some lame "3d" > deal. Totally lacking any clear midrange. Anyway, as he was enjoying >the sound, > along came in one of the local heavy metal guitarists! He immediatly said, "yeah, > I love these speakers too!" and they bonded with their common lack of >high > frequency hearing. > > So there you have it. Maybe the engineer thinks you sound GREAT and that they're > doing a really swell job. There is no accounting for taste. The hearing impared > have just as much right to enjoy music as the rest of us. > > Mark > > Mark wrote: > > > Most PA setups don't do stereo for the reason that (especially outside) you've > > got people all over the place that want to hear the full mix. If >you've got a > > lot of stereo information going out, you risk that people on one side are pretty > > much not going to hear half the mix. Aside from my webcasts and small cafes, I > > always go mono in larger clubs. > > > > Mark > > > > whiteoakstudios wrote: > > > > > I just give the sound man a stereo feed and use my own in-ear monitoring - > > > at least then it sounds good to me and I just tell the sound >man/woman to > > > pan hard right and left, with no eq. > > > It takes a real idiot to mess up those instructions - though last >time I > > > played out of doors and followed the above I came down from stage and asked > > > a freind how it went and he said"fine but I though you could have >done more > > > with stereo placement". I replied that the sound was bouncing all >over the > > > place - turns out the PA man runs it all in mono!! > > > > > > Gareth > > > > > > just got in from my gig opening for SUGAR DADDY AND THE BIG BONED > > > GALS.....went in 2 hours early for a sound check....."we supply all the > > > speakers etc.".....the sound guy took all my inputs and rearranged them in > > > my > > > mixer and sent it out to his console.....for about 2 mins this >sounded ok > > > (total sound check) but i was worried and not quite happy.....i am >not a > > > great or even good player, but i do pride myself in "my sound".....WELL, > > > 8:00 > > > o'clock comes and the first note i hit sounds like *shit* and i begin to get > > > worried.....this is nothing like what we had set up and his configuration > > > totally freaked me, things were not where they should have been.....where > > > was > > > the sound guy, NOWHERE TO BE FOUND.....yikes, the show must go on and no one > > > wants to see a 53 year old man cry, although i was sweating like a >pig in > > > the > > > sahara, so thankfully they could not see my tears.....IT WAS AWFUL, i had no > > > control of anything, boy does that make you feel like being > > > adventuresome.....then after cutting it about 10 mins. short everyone comes > > > up and says "wow that was cool " and LIES to that effect.....thankfully the > > > WILD TURKEY (sorry no scotch) kicked in and i did not burn my guitar and > > > rang.....i will never play through someone elses system again.....in fact, > > > this solo thing is getting to weird, i need other warm bodies to help the > > > tunes out.....sorry for such a goofy post but if i cant share this with you > > > all who can i share it with.....:(m >