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yeah...its unfortunate that the mass public so easily accept what is layed out for them to listen to...just thought i would add that at least 70% of the nationwide radio programming in most major cities is controlled and operated by only 4 major corporations. that says a lot about who is makin decisions about airplay and new music. shane ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Shindler <shindler@mediaone.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:13 PM Subject: Re: OT: why musicians can't eat -- and why radio is so bad > RE: OT: why musicians can't eat -- and why radio is so badCertainly a point > to be made here. I brought a bag full of my CDs into the office last week, > and one of the girls I work with took a look; it was mostly "outside"* stuff > like Eno, an Afro-Pop sampler, some Nusrat, Glenn Branca, etc.... and my > coworker (whose musical tastes range from Dave Matthews to Ben Harper**) > just noted that she didn't recognize any of them, and that was it. No > curiosity, no interest, nothing. > > And I realize now that most of my friends and acquaintances who aren't > musicians still won't buy a CD unless they've heard a few songs from it >on > the radio. I can't even imagine how limited my listening tastes would be if > I adhered to that rule. So maybe most people don't Want to go looking; > maybe they figure that if it's good, it'll end up on the radio, or on >MTV, > or on the cover of Rolling Stone. > > Didn't John Zorn say something about this? I read a quote wherein he > expressed his exasperation that most people who own four recordings of >the > Brandenburg Concertos would sooner spend their money on a fifth recording > before they'd take a chance by spending that same money on something > unfamiliar to them. Hmmm... > > > Peter > > *- I meant "outside" compared to what she'd normally listen to on the radio; > I know that Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Eno, and Branca are pop music compared to > some of what you guys would bring in to work! > > **-That said, there's nothing wrong with Dave Matthews or Ben Harper, or any > pop music for that matter. I may be stoned to death by the rest of LD >for > admitting this, but I even appreciate what NSync and the Backstreet Boys do. > And I still listen to the first Spice Girls album every now and then. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Liebig, Steuart A. > To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 4:02 PM > Subject: RE: OT: why musicians can't eat -- and why radio is so bad > > > i was discussing this sort of thing last night with a friend. people have to > *want* to search out the "good stuff" - - and i'm not convinced that > anybody wants to search out anything unless it's the color of their next > car. > besides, maybe the are listening to the "good stuff" - - maybe we all >need > to get over ourselves. or maybe there have always been people who listen to > music as "entertainment" and those who listen to it as "art." > > > stig > > > > others wrote: > >I have faith that people can make their own choices. > interesting comment, given that there're already **all** kindsa myriad > avenues lined/caked/soaked w/'good' music (-that which is outside the > 'mainstream'-) that folks do not seem inclined to 'seek out'. > eh? > to some degree: > people chose milosevic. people chose hitler. people chose jim jones. people > chose, well..... you probably follow my line (via these rather extreme > examples) by now. > best, > dt / s-c > >