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"Richard Zvonar" <zvonar@zvonar.com> put forth: > What's your > experience, and why do you think this is happening? Is this > collateral damage from the overall dumbing down of American culture, > or is it a case of a finite listening audience being spread thinner > by an increase in do-it-yourself electronic music and the > availability of downloadable music. I think it's a combination of ALL these factors, but most especially the increase in affordable equipment for the production of music, which used to be criminally-priced and prohibitive to guys like me to get ahold of. Nowadays one can pick up a Mackie 1202etc. for as little as $300. The cascade effect from people who bought into units like the QuadraVerb years ago, and now selling their stuff via The Recycler and other ad magazines, is a big factor that's made it more possible for people to have studio-quality effects at home. Combine this with the relatively-unfettered model on the Internet and you have an extremely broad range of music out there to select from. And lots of niche markets as a result. In some respects I think this may have the ultimate effect of changing music back from being a Business into more of an Art Form again; this can only benefit experimentalists. On another note though, a lot of what we on this list do is becoming less and less "experimental", and more mainstream, isn't it? There's a lot more looping going on in modern music today than even 10 years ago, and I wonder at times whether one gets the "wow" effect from live listeners less often than one gets the "oh yeah" effect. In both cases it's a positive experience for the listener - the "wow" is a new experience, a mind-expander (and perhaps more difficult as a breakthrough, I dunno), and the "oh yeah" would be when someone recognizes what you're doing, and likes it. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live!