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The arpeggiation effect was capable of the same delay times available... being around 2.5-3.0 secs. (foggy... I tended to use somewhere in the 1.5-3.0 second range for my cloud stuff.) Very short delay times with 100% mix yielded the most arpeggiator-like events. -Miko >>> "petr" <petr@tryi.com> 07/26/01 05:14PM >>> Can you say how much delay these guys have (IPS-33b and DHP-33)? I mean for the arpeggio effect. My old Legend II had only 0.400 sec. petr