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In a message dated 08/01/2001 9:05:09 PM, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: >Sorry Tom, but where I come from when someone tells you something like, >"as soon >as we get a power supply..." at a point when they're 10 months away from >having >finished software, you are being lied to. When you're told a shipping >date at a >point when "nasty crashes and lock-ups...or card memory corruption!!" is >even >close to being an issue, you are being lied to. Maybe in the sunny love >love land >where you live, everyone tries very hard at their job and does a great >job, but >here in the real world, I find people that call themselves "project >managers" >or >"marketing engineers" to talk out their ass on a regular basis. Setting >unrealistic due dates is one of their greatest skills. I'd love to here >an >uncensored version of what's going on at Electrix from an >engineer/software >engineer. I'd bet we'd all have a nice chuckle. .....have ya ever worked on a record, or a film? that thought might engender some reasonable forgiveness, for 'process'. me, i never pre-order cd's (nor film tickets) when i know that the project-in-question's still in process. (though i'll pay-in-advance for new EDP software, kim, ifya want me to!) dt / s-c