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Oh yeah, speaking of heavily modified tibetan bowls, I was at target (pronounced tar-jay?) last night, and happened across the mixing bowl aisle. Picked up the 8 quart brushed stainless upscale mixing bowl and whapped the rim with my thumb. Strikingly beautiful sound! But I could only get the big tibetan-style ringing while holding the bowl upside down. I was hoping to be able to do a rick walker water trick with it, but it didn't ring as much. Then the 6 qt bowl sounded just as good, with a higher pitch. And across the aisle, a rubber-handled vegetable brush made a wonderfull ringing sound when the handle struct the bowl, and cool crinkly sounds when the brush end was used. Needless to say, I I I I didn't manage to overcome my gear acquisition syndrome, and bought all three (total damage: about twenty bux). Look for these bowls performing (through a looper backwards, of course) at an upcoming butoh piece at a tiny obscure japanese box theater sometime in the future. Simran > From: Mark <sine@zerocrossing.net> > > True, true, true.... however, I'm sure I'm not the only one on the list >that feels > that part of their craft IS gear wrangling? The glee of a new vocoder, >or heavily > modified Speak and Spell, or even something as lo-tech as a new Tibetan >singing > bowl. Striking a balance between the spontaneity that a new "toy" can >help along > and the depth of creativity that can only be obtained through intimacy >with one's > gear, is the real trick. > > Is it wrong to long for a stereo looper? Than I don't want to be right. > > Mark