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Kim Flint wrote: > You can do a lot of other interesting stuff by combining Multiply and > Insert.... Check out the stuff > Andre LaFosse does on his "Disruption Theory" album. Geez, Kim, too kind...! Here's a short mp3 file that uses precisely the Multiply and Insert approach Kim talked about in his previous post: http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/Theory1.mp3 I've posted this link to the list before, but it might make a bit more sense in the context of the current thread... This is a totally live Echoplex "solo," which uses Multiply and Insert all over the place. One thing that's relevant to this thread is that you can hear the growth of the loop pretty clearly, starting from a single cycle of less than a second, which gradually evolves into a much longer and more complex texture. It was basically built off of Multiply, Insert, and Remultiply. Quantize was very much on, and Insertmode=Insert. At about 2/3 of the way through, the loop gets reversed (using the reverse option in the parameter row, rather than the Insert button), and at the end of the solo the infamous "remultiply + undo" maneuver is featured prominently, as different fragments of the loop are scrolled through with each successive press of UNDO. Since I don't always get the chance to combine EDP education and shameless self-promotion, here are a couple of other Echoplex-heavy sound files to check out: http://www.altruistmusic.com/ram/trinary.ram This is a personal favorite remix of mine; every texture here other than the drum machine is a guitar loop, mostly done through an Echoplex. The loop that enters about 50 seconds into the track in particular makes serious use of unquantized Insertmode=replace; the loop repeats three times and is then reversed at some point during the fourth repetition. http://www.altruistmusic.com/soundfiles/Back2.mp3 The semi-ambient sound you hear at the beginning of this track is another Echoplex loop, also using a lot of unquantized Insertmode=replace, but with a much less "assualtive" sound that the previous example. I don't remember if there was any multiply in this loop or not, tell you the truth... doesn't sound like it to me. http://www.altruistmusic.com/archive/loop.html This is an archive page of some older (circa 1997) guitar looping going on. The material there is a bit more primitive in terms of how much it uses (or doesn't use) the more advanced EDP features, but for those who aren't offended by the infamous Ambient Guitar Loop Paradigm (tm), there might be some interesting listening... OK, lesson/plug now over... ;} Andre LaFosse | Disruption Theory | http://www.altruistmusic.com ================================================================ "Fripp and Zappa, step aside." (MOJO Magazine, May 2000) "For electric guitar enthusiasts everywhere, this one's essential." (Alternative Press Magazine, September 2000) "A spectacular collision of manifold musical thoughts and patterns... To call Disruption Theory a futuristic album would be an understatement." (20th Century Guitar Magazine, February 2001) "Fucking amazing CD." (Derek Sivers, president, CD Baby) "His six-stringer is pumped up with energy, creating a firestorm of pyrotechnics and burning sounds, but with a sensitivity to weirdness and experimentation. Disruption Theory reveals the difference it makes when a player knows what he is doing. Here is one that deserves the title 'unique'." (Expose Magazine, October 2000) =========================================================