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1) Set up a wash type loop (all fade-ins) then overdub a rhythmic part by hitting Multiply and ending with Record. 2) Set up a loop. Then take a section of it and repeat it. Then go back to the original. SwitchQuant=Cnf SampleMode=RUn MoreLoops = 2 Set up loop NextLoop (EDP waits for confirm) wait till the start of the bit for repetition Multiply (confirms NextLoop) wait for the duration of the portion you wish to repeat(now playing) Record(starts repeating) NextLoop( EDP waits for confirm) Undo(go back to main loop, you'll hear one more repeat) if the last Undo is at the end of the repeated loop then you get an even effect, otherwise the next to last repeat will be cut short. ...back to the EDP andy butler