Re: OT: Basic intro (OT)

["Christopher White" <magicicada@charter.net>]

*getting pillow and night shades*


> *getting popcorn*
> 
> *^P
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Caliban Tiresias Darklock" <caliban@darklock.com>
> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Basic intro (OT)
> 
> 
> > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 11:36:32 -0500, jim palmer
> <jimp@pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> > >i think you are getting unnecessarily defensive.
> >
> > I tend to do that. ;)
> >
> > >>Okay, now that you've said "you're wrong and you're
> stupid",
> > >
> > >while i do think he implied that you were wrong, he
> did not
> say you are
> > >stupid.
> >
> > The restatement was intended to be light-hearted, not
> accusatory. I
> > apologise for any perception that I was angry about
> something.
> >
> > >> perhaps you
> > >> could tell me exactly which set of blanket
> statements you
> have a problem
> > >> with...
> > >
> > >blanket statement #1:
> > >>"Each generation of technology provides simpler ways
> to make
> music"
> > >is anything simpler than whacking two sticks together.
> > >maybe singing?
> >
> > Absolutely.
> >
> > Whacking two sticks together produces a very limited
> series of
> sounds.
> > When "sticks on logs" was presented, producing the
> first
> rudimentary
> > xylophone, a larger number of notes could be produced.
> >
> > Singing requires a great deal of training and practice.
> When
> "blowing
> > through a shell" was presented, pleasant sounds could
> be made
> with much
> > less effort.
> >
> > Technology simplifies the process of making music. It
> provides
> more
> > capability with less training. That's the entire point
> of
> applying it.
> >
> > The statement is certainly not "simply untrue".
> >
> > >blanket statement #2:
> > >>"The previous generation, being jealous..."
> > >the previous generation of technology is jealous?
> > >older people are jealous of younger people?
> > >users of older technology are jealous?
> >
> > I noticed this. It's probably the major foundation of
> the
> "age"
> > arguments; it's also a perfect example of "apply common
> sense".
> > Obviously, the intended meaning is USERS OF the
> previous
> generation. A
> > misstatement, but hardly a logical error. Once again,
> certainly not
> > "simply untrue".
> >
> > >anyway you slice it, a blanket statement...
> >
> > Wrong. "This isn't a universal truth, of course." It
> was never
> intended
> > to be a blanket statement, and I specifically noted
> that in
> the original
> > post.
> >
> > >blanket statement #3:
> > >"...claims the music isn't "real". "
> > >a whole generation of people (or users, or technology)
> can't
> make any claim.
> >
> > However, a substantive portion of those people can and
> will
> have common
> > beliefs and opinions which constitute an implied claim.
> And,
> of course,
> > certainly not "simply untrue".
> >
>