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> all, "only twelve notes a man can play" (to quote the Beastie Boys)... Certainly not! There are many other ways to divide an octave, tuneful ways at that - escaping 12 tone does not mean a complete collapse into dissonance. Listen to Harry Partch, Wendy Carlos etc... Unfortunately most instruments do not allow exploration of these realms except with clever programming or highly expensive customisations. You can do it with fretless but takes a very good ear. I see the tyranny of the 12 tones as one which is in dire need of overthrowing, and not just in weirdy-beardy eccentric circles. I think I'm going off topic :-) Jamie