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> > > > The usual rate for sample usage is currently around 7.5 cents per copy. > > With an average of fifty samples in a track, that's $3.75 per track and > > $75 on a 20-track CD. Then you add in the cost of production and > > packaging, and it gets up to about $85. Shipping and handling will kick > > it up to $90, and I still haven't made a dime. But who the hell is >going > > to buy a $90 CD?! > > > > Clearance is almost impossible. Contacting several hundred artists for > > permission to use the samples without payment will get a bunch of "FUCK > > YOU, PAY ME!" responses, and the songs are either damaged beyond > > salvation or have to be released unauthorised. > > > > Now, credit, we still have a problem. At three lines per sample and two > > columns per CD insert page, we only get about 10 samples credited per > > page. The sample credits alone take up 100 pages! > > > > Unfortunately, I can think of no good solution to this. Your thoughts > > would be welcomed. > > Sure thing, just as soon as you help my buddies solve the 'I-could-never-afford-all-this-music-I-downloaded-from-Napster,-what-should- I-do?' problem. This 'sample or don't sample' question is getting >very< far from what I consider to be the real issue, which I don't think I have seen addessed in this thread so far. Does it finished product suck, or not? This is a lot more important to me, as a 'consumer' of music, than the painfully grey 'legitmate art question'. Slightly more difficult to admit, it's even more important to me, from a music consumer standpoint, than whether the artists involved 'forced' collaboration. (and this is at the crux of the reasons that discussion has been so heated - more on that in a moment) The music sounds the same, whether or not you cleared the samples. I can't stand the-ripoff-artist-formerly-know-as-puff-daddy when he's lifting or when he's not, or Fratboy Slim for that matter. DJ shadow, and Matt Davignon :>, on the other hand, can spin a mean turntable. (Some of Shadow's stuff is a bit lame I must confess - I think he's pretty much played out. The elevator quartet cd was >ok<.) I could say a lot more, maybe later. Jonathan El-Bizri