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Hi! Does anyone remember those ancient answering machines which used a standard sized cassette with a looped 1 minute reel on it for the greeting? When I was a sophmore in high school, I got a hold of a few extras. My crap boombox had a built in mic, and you could disable record while the tape was still playing, so I'd record myself, then jump out of record and play over the loop. I had an even shittier boom box to record that with, and still have these ancient relics lying around somewhere. This was just when I started playing, but I think, in many ways, looping taught me to play, and trained my ear. Because before I knew what scales were, I figured out what notes sounded good over what kinds of fucked up chords I had invented (to my mind, anyway). A little more than a year later, a friend of mine pilfered an Ibanez rackmount multi-effects unit for me, which had a 6 second delay at the longest setting, which you could tweek in real time with these tiny levers for mix, regen, and speed. That's when I started figuring out how to layer, though it was just long delay layering, and the earlier stuff would slowly fade out, unless I maxed out the regen. I also had a four track with an effects loop, so I would be able to drop vocals, bass, and casio in. I was in lo-fi heaven, but still wanted MORE! In 94, my second year in college, I got a hold of a Digitech echo plus and everything changed. Battery powered, a knob for tweaking speed, and CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL!!! I wrote so much music at this period, I felt like I was bursting. A little later that year, I found out about a non-gender-specific-jam-device (at the introductory price of $350) and was forced into the world of midi control routing and all that other left brain stuff. The echo plus died on me, so I really was stuck there for a while. The line-6 I got last year brought me back to where I was with the simplicity of the digitech, but with the limitations we're all well aware of. I was bumbed about the lack of regen control and time tweaking, until I heard rumour of an amazing device JUST AROUND THE CORNER. Little did I know it was a very long corner, but my Repeater should arrive in a few weeks. I suppose it's back to midi routing for me. When they get to the point of having a four-track floor mounted battery powered looper with real time stretching and pitch whammying that will sync to midi or tap tempo, I will buy 10, mark my words. aaroneous