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>> rubber ends) and am well pleased with the thud and >> snap that i get along with the added shaker sound. >> (plus you can get them for 5dollars at Targét) > >The rattle sticks, or just the tub, tub thumper :> ? oh right. no the rattlestix were the big investment. i think they are about 10dollars. they are from remo and they sell a kid version and "professional" version. they both have their own sound. i found them online somewhere cause guitar center (chicago) didnt know what i was talking about. jf